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Sep 22 - Oct 6

Hi Friends,
This is Madhu. While browsing i have found some websites where we can find some books online. Here are the links for free online books.
I have also added these in the resources page.
Njoy....


Hello Everyone,

Thank you Madhu for the good websites. I am trying to learn Java and these sites have been very helpful. I have entered a site under the resources page but I will enter it here as well.
Protolize: Essential web tools in one place. This is my one stop shopping for finding web design tools and resources. It has sections for CSS, JavaScript, PHP, Ajax, Flash, and Ruby. The Ruby tutorial is fun.
http://www.tonyyoo.com/protolize/" target= "blank">http://www.tonyyoo.com/protolize/
- Selena

Good Morning All, Madhu and Selena thanks for the links and references. I greatly appreciate them. Selena, I will play around with Ruby. - Jamiel September 29, 2006 @ 10:10am.

Hi Again,
I am working on finalizing a topic. I have several ideas that I am considering. After looking at several sites, I am finding that it is easy to get sidetracked by a website's appearence. What ideas are you all working on?
-Selena---October 3, @7:00am.
I'm working on a personal book review, although it seems like a candidate for being database driven in the long term. I think there is some potential for nifty effects like the pop-up summaries on Netflix. - Tony, Oct 4 4pm.

Hi Everyone,
As of now i haven't started working with my assignment bcoz iam unable to choose a topic for building my web pages. Could anyone help me out in giving me some ideas(topics) for them. Suggest me some topics to choose my website.
Thanks in advance.
~Madhu.

Good Afternoon Everyone, I am thinking about creating a website for transformers and GI Joe. These were hit toys when I was a kid. What do you all think? - Jamiel - October 3, 2006 @ 3:36pm
I think that there aren't many folks checking in on the chat page. - Jim, Oct 3 9pm

Hi All, I am going to get started on recreating my company web page. I have not done much with it in the last few years. It was created in Front Page and leaves alot to be desired. I showed it to you all in the first class as an example of a bad website. www.comtrekinc.com. Using it as my project will allow me to get some decent feedback on how it looks. Wes , Oct 3

Hi,
I was just joking about Frontpage earlier today. There is a Tech Ed workshop at our annual NH conference that features Frontpage! I cringed when I read the description. The sad truth about Frontpage is that Microsoft does not use it for their own websites.
Anyway, I am weighing two website possibilities that I could do for my job. One would be a staff development website project for teachers. The other would be a site to teach 8th graders about technology. So my choices are somewhat picked for me already.
I guess my advice would be that is to pick a topic that you love and know alot about already. It would be something that you would like to show off to others who may not know much. The Internet is a continual "show and tell."
Selena, Oct 4

Hi folks.
I've had several people email me with questions about the assignment for Friday, trying to get a better picture of just what I'm expecting and what's acceptible.
I confess I left it fairly open ended so that you all had space to start your design process. Some text describing what materials you've chosen, how you intend to organize it, and what design goals or websites you're intending to emulate are all reasonable beginnings. Images, screenshots, or just freehand sketches are also appropriate.
But I am expecting to see some xhtml and css code, even if they're very preliminary versions; vague intentions are going to feel pretty thin.
My intent is to look at and discuss your preliminary designs in class, as a group; that way, you can get some feedback from the rest of the class before plunging into the rest of the work to finish and flesh out the site pages before the following class.
To motivate you, here's a list of the sorts of questions/topics I might ask as we look at your design.
* in 2 seconds, what is this? * billboard test : * clear visual hierarchy * conventions used / abused * clearly defined areas * where can I click? * minimize noise * navigation : * where am I now? * where can I go? * site layout, breadcrumbs, hierarchy * accessibility : * legibility * key info "above the fold"? At what size? * resizing text and/or window size (800x600 ... 1280x1024) * browser compatibility , handhelds * does it break gracefully? * Jim's pet peeves : * does it validate? * who, when, copyright * artistic merit : * home page vs interior * match for intended audience? * cohesion, identity * tagline * images, colors, typeface : what and why * sucky stuff : * garish (... is in the eye of the beholder?) * mystery meat * pop ups (Jim's opinion : let *me* decide, eh?) * slow load time
I''ve emailed this out to everyone, and am putting it here as a reference.
See you Friday night,
- Jim on Wed night late.


One more question about the homework assignment. Can we use some of the open source css templates we're finding out there and "plug" them into the XHTML pages(s) we created? I found a template I really like and wrote my XHTML around it. Even as I write this I'm thinking that you definetly want us to come to class with original css for Friday. To be safe, I'll write one myself and also have the open source one available to plug in. What are your thoughts?
p.s. Jamiel, I love the GI Joe/ Transformer idea for the website. Will the site be "more than meets the eye"? As we all are aware, "Knowing is half the battle"
-Nate Thursday morning
I think I'm going to end up doing pretty much the same thing. At least we'll be in the same boat. - Tony, Thursday afternoon
The answer is yes, you are free to use available sources as you see fit, as long as (a) you cite the properly, (b) follow their copyright rules, and (c) understand what they're doing and/or adopt them to your own purposes. In fact, I recommend that you do: many of the issues you'll need to face have been studied at length by very clever people who've found tricks that work across many different browsers. It's naive to expect you can replicate all that work from scratch. On the other hand, if after four weeks of work what you have to show is pulled verbatim from a single source, with their colors, their artwork, their fonts, etc, that alone isn't going to show me that you have put in the time to understand this material. -- Jim, Thurs Oct 5 5pm

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